scrapally says…

Why Are "Clean"/Whole/Real Food Eaters so Passionate?

On the 60 minutes thread about sugar, something happened. Something I honestly didn't see. But from what I figured out from the edited posts was that some people feel that people who eat "clean"/whole/real are somehow judging others who don't. I don't bel



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  1. scrapally
    scrapally says…

    On the 60 minutes thread about sugar, something happened. Something I honestly didn't see. But from what I figured out from the edited posts was that some people feel that people who eat "clean"/whole/real are somehow judging others who don't. I don't believe that anyone on the thread was judging what others eat, but I think sometimes people who eat clean/whole/real food are indeed very passionate about the issue. But there's a reason we are so passionate. For me, there are several reasons.

    First, it's just the plain amount of non-food that I've realized is in my "food." This is a great post about ingredients at 100 Days of Real Food Challenge Blog:

    Second, it's the fact that much of what has happened to food production has been done deceitfully and without giving me the personal choice. (notice I say ME here - I am only talking about my personal feelings of being decieved)

    Third, and Forsara made such a great point about this... making crap food cheap is a way to keep people wanting it.

    And then the other part that makes me mad is this- a quote from Fosara's awesome post: "Without access to fresh food, and instead only a local quicky-mart, it makes tragic sense that nutritionally empty foods are what is purchased normally. NPR did a report on the inner city food supply in low income metro areas. There were little healthy foods available &/ or no fresh food markets."

    So, again - we create a system where the wealthy/middle class are the only ones who can stay healthy easily.

    I originally started my clean eating journey because I thought it would help me lose weight. But it became so much more for me. I'm curious - how and why did others start? And if you don't eat a whole foods diet, have you ever been curious about it?

  2. blurcrazyuk (Gold Rewards Subscriber)
    blurcrazyuk says…

    i started it to lose weight but once the research started flowing in I quickly realized I was giving this stuff to my kids. I do my best with our budget and time constraints but I think being aware is a huge step in this process. At least for me. I have put many of products back on the shelf due to way too many "ingredients".

    I think this change is such a personal one and know plenty of people who don't care or care and do the best they can. That's my thoughts - no judgment on anyone else either :)

  3. LuckyJava (Gold Rewards Subscriber)
    LuckyJava says…

    Reading the discussion it kind of/sort of reminds me of la leche league (in my area) breastfeeders as opposed to run of the mill Moms here who breastfeed. Here, they are so passionate it makes it feel like an insurmountable achievement!
    I'm not a clean eater I just do my best to et as healthy as I can while cooking for a family of 6 every night...balancing quality and quantity. I like to read the discussion though as I am picking up tips here and there to eat better :). I think small changes and substitutions are more doable or us as we are a big family and it's really difficult to get myself to change, let alone everyone else!

  4. jessi0310
    jessi0310 says…

    I actually love that 100 days of real food blog for ideas!!! I do kind of feel the passion comes across as judging people who do not eat whole, clean foods. It makes people who do not cook all their meals from scratch from ingredients they just bought at the farmers market feel like they just don't measure up in a way and also food is a personal thing so it probably sparks some emotion. I also think if you are interested in that sort of thing you will search out the info on your own about how unhealthy foods are but most people just don't care about it. I think it's great to know more & I care but no one I know does. And really being single and living on your own is much easier than living with a husband who only wants to eat snacky treats & processed food from boxes (LOL like mine). I am going to have that stuff around the house and sometimes when I am tired from working & running around doing activities with my daughter I honestly am tempted to make some of that stuff instead of spend an hour preparing & cooking a meal from scratch & then cleaning up. I guess it just depends on how dedicated you are. And I don't know about the whole thing people not having access. I don't really think lower class people are forced into eating unhealthy. I have friends that say stuff like that all the time. That it's cheaper to eat at Mcdonalds than to eat at home. That really isnt' true if you do the math (it would cost my family of 3 to spend about $12 to eat dinner there). And maybe I am not knowledgable but I also don't know where in this country you cannot get vegetables & fruit. Even frozen is better than not. It doens't have to be from a farmers market to be "healthy". And maybe this is judgemental of me but when I see people using food stamp (card) in stores they are buying expensive processed food. Has anyone ever made a box of noodles or rice (like rice a roni)? Because if you have a big family you would need 2 boxes. Plain white rice and regular pasta is not "clean" I guess but it is not unhealthy like a processed box of food and it is cheap. I think ultimately it's a choice people make to eat healthy or not & for the most part people cannot be convinced otherwise even through research and information given to them.

  5. blurcrazyuk (Gold Rewards Subscriber)
    blurcrazyuk says…

    @ LuckyJava YES! I have run into the la leche league here but in CT it made you feel so awful about yourself (I was unable to breastfeed with both of my kids). I was ok with that but I got looks at times from people who were and weren't in the league.

    I think clean eating can do that too which is why I said that I do they best I can. Sounds like we do pretty much the same thing...balancing quality and quantity. I would love to learn how to can because I think that would help tons trying to do just that :)

    I LOVE Lisa's blog and Vani's (she is the guest for today). I take the articles they have and make it work for my family :)
    @jessi0310 I don't have time to cook my meals from scratch either - some time I wish I did and sometimes I'm like "dude I'm done" to my son (he's 3). When I get to be a SAHM (in the next year) I'm hoping to do 75% but right now it's between 25 and 50%. We hit up the farmers markets when they are open but we eat a lot of frozen veggies. I agree with what you said though I don't get how it's cheaper to eat @ McD's either but I do feel like the inner citys don't have any fresh markets and if they dont have a car it might be difficult for them. But on the other hand if they go to the store there is a veggie/fruit section there so while the chemicals are an issue it's got to be better than McD's.

  6. jenrn (Gold Rewards Subscriber)
    jenrn says…

    And maybe this is judgemental of me but when I see people using food stamp (card) in stores they are buying expensive processed food.

    ^^this. I think it is ridiculous. Too many times I have been behind someone at the grocery store who is buying bags of Doritos and cases of Mt Dew with a food stamp card. I have no problem with WIC, as you can only buy certain things (milk, cheese, fruits, veggies...etc).

    And Susan, I had to LOL at your LeLeche comment. I formula fed my daughter after the first month and received some judgment about it (although she was also in the NICU for 3 weeks after she was born so I wanted to tell them to eff off)

    I do think that under-education is a big problem with the consumption of junk food. Another part is convenience. Personally I do buy a lot of fresh veggies and fruits, but I don't care so much if they are organic. That being said, there are many nights when I don't have the energy, time (or sanity) to cook a meal. My husband and I both work full time, I commute 45 mins each way to work.

    One thing I have really tried to do is prepare food ahead of time on the weekend. For example, cook a chicken, make marinara sauce, cut up veggies for stir fry, etc. Still there are times when we grab take-out chinese or a pizza and I am ok with that.

    If my daughter eats pizza for supper, I make sure she gets grapes or an orange for a bedtime snack. I think it's important to balance it out rather than restrict the food altogether.

  7. AprilFoster (Studio Calico Staff Member)
    AprilFoster says…

    i haven't read all the threads, but I just wanted to pipe in as a non-clean eater.
    I eat as many fresh veggies as I can (not a big fruit eater, but I try) and I'm definitely a non-processed food-type of eater. Love my cheese-its, though :)

    Personally, I don't think it's wealthy/middle class versus low-income. I really think a lot has to do with what can reasonably be available in the area you live in. Here in Bowling Green, population 60,000, we have 3 Krogers, 2 Walmarts, Sam's and a couple savalot type grocery stores. We don't have a whole foods or publix and our selection is VERY limited at even kroger. Kroger stocks foods that people buy. If people are demanding more healthy foods by spending money on them, Kroger will stock them. Our area of the country does not eat lots of avocados or jalepenos., so I pay through the nose for those items. When I go to TX, i marvel at how cheap those 2 ingredients are. But, i can't blame Kroger for not stocking very fresh avocados or raising the prices because it's all about supply and demand.

    Do I still eat healthily? YES! But, I don't have time to shop at farmer's markets (no delivery services here) and the meat market and everything else separately. I just don't. And I don't have time to keep a garden either.

    When I worked as a manager at the pharma company, there was a doctor in west Louisville who was an expert in treating Type2 diabetes in lower income areas. He LECTURED his patients about eating fast food and spent time educating them about the types of foods they should be eating. He wrote article after article, was featured in USAToday, etc about his work, but even he said it all boils down to patient choice. They knew. They were told, yet most continued to eat their way into loss of eyesight or a losing a limb....or worse, they didn't take their FREE medication!!! Being in Louisville, no, it wasn't convenient for them to take public transportation to the other side of town, but let me tell you, clean eating is way more accessible and affordable there than it is in BG (I've lived in both places).

    Long story, but for me personally, it all boils down to balance. We'll get a pizza from time to time, but mostly, there's always at least 2 green veggies on our plates and I love some fresh tomatoes and squash!

  8. MaryJo
    MaryJo says…

    Truthfully - I think sometimes we are a culture of guilt! If someone isn't doing it the way "I" (in general) do it, then I must be doing something wrong. There is so many judgmental people in all areas of life. But I think the main cause of that is fear. Look at all the non-needed battles - WM vs. SAHM, nursing vs. formula etc...

    When I worked for Parents as Teachers as a Parent Educator, I always, always, emphasized to my families that you need to do what is right for YOUR family. Do not feel the need to explain to others why you are not breastfeeding. Why you have a different sleep routine. etc...
    I have come across a few moms who are so competitive that it is ridiculous.
    La Leche has a good purpose and I know they have helped many a new mom. But like you said, it can be a little overboard with the passion. When my son was 13 months, I stopped nursing after a trip out of town. When I came back he just wasn't interested. At the L.L. meeting, I just wanted them to tell me it was ok not to nurse anymore. Because frankly at that point, I was done, too. But all I got were suggestions on how to interest him again. So I was done. Up to that point though, I had a lot of support.

    But back to topic at hand. For me, I think it is important to be educated, but I also am cautious. I don't just jump on any band wagon. We've had the sunscreen scares, the plastics scares...etc... So I try to do my research before starting something new. Or tossing out all my old sunscreen and plastic containers.

    For me, I appreciate when people share information they find. It gets me thinking about what I want for my family. What is the best for "my" family. And I agree that sugar is not the best for my family. That eating more whole, clean foods make sense. But it is a little overwhelming when you have been following a certain path for so long. So I understand that point of view. It is expensive to eat clean sometimes and not convenient for some.

    I have also learned that for us, it *is* about making one change at a time. That is how we switched from mostly white breads to whole grain. Drinking more water than anything else. Eating more fruits and veggies. The next step was eliminating partially hydrogenated crap. Now I am in the process of not buying anything with high fructose corn syrup. I know these things are bad. They just are. But I also know for us it takes time and baby steps.
    So as I find more time to cook healthy meals at home, I am trying to switch to cleaner food. But it's a slow process.
    My husband travels a lot for work. A lot. When he is on a project, it is just me and the kids home Sunday night through Friday day. So convenience is key for me sometimes. Just so exhausted by dinner time.
    I am learning though, by planning a little bit more that it's possible to get a good meal on the table though. There are quick and easy clean meals out there.

    On the other hand, it doesn't help that I have probably two of the pickiest eaters on the planet living in my house (lol) but I have been trying to educate them on food slowly as well. Watching that McDonald's video on how chicken nuggets are made together cured my daughter's desire and mine for any mc d's. And talking with my son about sugar (he's 9) well, he doesn't ask for it as much. And I find him reading labels now to see how much sugar is in it! He is making his own choices regarding that one. All after a two minute conversation about why I was eliminating most sugar from my diet.
    And I had to laugh this morning when my four year old asked me "how much sugar is in it?" when we were picking out snacks. She loves to copy her brother!

    So that is just my two cents :)

  9. AprilFoster (Studio Calico Staff Member)
    AprilFoster says…

    @jessi, i have to agree with you regarding the information being available. We live in the information age where everyone has access. Whether it's the government providing television to lower income families, free phones, free internet (at any library and at schools), the information is there about healthy eating, even if you're not searching for it.

  10. Susan_Beth
    Susan_Beth says…

    I love to eat clean, but in my current reality it is not always possible. My introduction to the "clean eating" lifestyle came in a search for weight loss tools.

    Allie, I did not read the whole thread about the 60 minutes piece (although I did see much of that piece), but I will say kudos to you and many others because I have never felt judged for not feeding my family as clean as you feed yourself.

    I have no resentment on my part for those who can do it at a passionate level, in fact I admire them and am a bit envious at times, but that envy is my issue, not theirs.

    But I do recognize that there are many for whom eating clean (or whatever marketing name the healthy food choices are going by) feels like a romantic ideal life that they would love to achieve, but are barred by social and economic issues, lack of knowledge and time to get knowledge, general lack of time to implement changes in cooking and shopping habits, and lack of local resources.

    For me to feed my family clean in every way would require an increase in our food budget of about 100%. That is partly because we live so far north that certain fresh foods are only available at a high premium, and then to add on looking for organic is a second premium. As a result, I do the best I can with the budget that allows us to actually make ends meet. Usually that means compromise in not buying organic meat or produce. Do I feel guilty? Yes. Not because of what other people think, but because I know there is something better for my husband and son, but I'm not getting it for them. It feels like a failure on my part to give them less than the best.

    Don't get me wrong. I haven't given up. I do the best I can with the budget I've got. We eat game meat shot by friends who are generous in sharing of their extras (elk, antelope and deer). My bread is better than average, but not as good as it could get unless I have time to make it from scratch. My fruits and veggies may not always be organic, but for the most part they aren't canned or frozen either. It just has to be whatever steps we can take under our circumstances. And when I see others with larger families or smaller budgets I don't judge them, I assume that they are doing the best they can under their circumstances.

    Yes, the marketing and manipulation of our grocery supplies is an abomination and an insult to our intelligence as a culture. But the reality is, to a certain degree, we as a culture spent the last 5-6 decades allowing it because it was convenient and quick and we thought it was progress to eliminate the amount of work it takes to feed a family - because if we have less work in our lives that must mean we have a higher standard of living, right?. Repairing the damage is going to be a challenge and take a long time.

    And for the poverty stricken who live in the inner-city and rurally, it is probably harder than we can imagine. Might be a need for some reaching out and lifting up, but that is true of most social issues these days. There are haves and have nots in our society. Hopefully some of the "haves" will buy into an ethic of wanting to help out the "have nots" whether through church or volunteer programs, NGOs or whatever in a way that can bring about changes that improve our whole society.

  11. scrapally
    scrapally says…

    Jessi, it's so true that having others in the family complicates the issue. My daughter still lived with me when I made the switch and she thought I was certifiable! She said, "what do you mean you are giving away all the food?" We talk all the time about ingredients and cooking and all the issues. But in the end, being an adult, she still has the choice to go run to Subway or McDonalds or Wendy's for lunch or dinner. But I know she's more aware. It's just going to take something drastic for her to make a drastic change (if she ever does). I know she thinks about it more though, and does try to go out less. So, sometimes it's just about baby steps. If it were me, and IF I wanted to make a switch as a family, I'd probably take a Dave Ramsey approach to it. Of course, that's not saying anyone should... just how I might approach it if I were attempting this with a family.

    I also have to say, I do not make all my food from scratch LOL. The idea of making my own pasta or bread sounds completely overwhelming. I'm also not convinced that it's necessary to eat whole foods anyway. But who knows, maybe that's another baby step I have yet to take.

    The thing about the issue and "personal choice" for me though is I feel that for DECADES, I thought I was making good, healthy choices and I come to find out that I was SOOOOOOO wrong. So, I'm mad. I'm mad that I didn't know, and if it weren't for the folks around me who were already on this whole food train, I'm not sure I would have ever learned or figured it out.

    Personally, the food stamp issue drives me crazy. I would be all for limiting food stamp purchases. But then all the people would come out talking about personal choice and rights and such... so, it's a lose-lose issue I think.

  12. blurcrazyuk (Gold Rewards Subscriber)
    blurcrazyuk says…

    "Watching that McDonald's video on how chicken nuggets are made together cured my daughter's desire and mine for any mc d's"

    I love this - I have to laugh because I thought we were the onlys ones who did that :) That's just great :)

    If my son wants nuggets (and I don't have time to make them) we go to Chick-fil-a :)

  13. scrapally
    scrapally says…

    Oh, Susan Beth, first thank you!

    Second, ditto! I think you said all that so well! "romantic ideal" ... so true, kind of how I feel when I read home decor blogs or see someone's gorgeous scrap studio, or perfectly decorated mantle by season, or post about their "true love with with their spouse." What a great phrase choice.

  14. scrapally
    scrapally says…

    MaryJo, what an interesting (and likely accurate) take on the issue... guilt. We are so good at it.

  15. MaryJo
    MaryJo says…

    "And for the poverty stricken who live in the inner-city and rurally, it is probably harder than we can imagine. Might be a need for some reaching out and lifting up, but that is true of most social issues these days. There are haves and have nots in our society. Hopefully some of the "haves" will buy into an ethic of wanting to help out the "have nots" whether through church or volunteer programs, NGOs or whatever in a way that can bring about changes that improve our whole society."

    I saw this a lot in my work. Food budget allowed for Ramen noodles as a main course for a lot of my families :(
    Sometimes children only had warm, "healthy" meals at school that seriously weren't all that healthy. For goodness sakes, the school I worked for a few years counted ketchup as a vegetable??? Not right in any manner.

    Ally - I see it time and again even within groups of people I know. There seems to be this fear that there is only one right way to do things. So people become defensive at times when feeling less than perfect. I know. I have been there in the past! But I try to just keep the focus on making choices for my family that work for us :) It has helped my way of thinking a lot.
    And like I said. I am grateful when new info is put out there for me. I just like to do my own research with it as well. But that 60 minutes piece really did get me thinking again about something I was starting to work on anyway.

    blurcrazyuk - seriously gross, wasn't it? Turned me off forever!

  16. samanthalanday
    samanthalanday says…

    Well this thread just sent me on a 3 hour long research a thon, and I am super overwhelmed, but definitely ready to make some changes.

  17. scrapally
    scrapally says…

    LOL, Sorry Samantha! :) But that's honestly how it started for me too! Definitely check out the 100 Days blog for the "mini-challenges." They are things you can do gradually - and just to pick and choose what changes you want to make (if any)... do them weekly, monthly, quarterly, whatever... I love that she gives you so many tools, information and choices.

    MaryJo - For goodness sakes, the school I worked for a few years counted ketchup as a vegetable?? - BINGO. That's what has me so worked up - it's that stuff going on that I just never even realized. I thought school lunches were required to be "healthy." I thought that's what my tax dollars were helping to support with the National School Lunch program. Again, feeling duped.

    I just can't agree that the information is so readily out there. If that's true, why did it take me 46 years to "get it?" Ever since my 20s I've wanted to choose a healthy lifestyle, I absolutely didn't understand what "processed" even meant. So, for someone to say, don't eat processed foods... I'm thinking, yeah, whatever. Sure information is out there, but it's not accessible (and I don't mean physically - but written in a way or marketed in a way that sends the message home) to so many people.

  18. krismar
    krismar says…

    I love learning about nutrition and healthy eating. I am inspired by hearing others' thoughts and journeys. I am far from a perfect and/or clean eater but I try to make good decisions. Do I want to eat better? Do I feel better when I eat better? Do I want to live a healthy & vibrant live? Do I think what I eat has any impact on this? Do I want to the same for my family? Yes, yes, yes, yes & yes! :) Therefore, I feel it is important to learn and do as much as I can to stay healthy and disease-free. It is hard weeding through the vast amount of information available (so much, so many differing opinions, biases behind all the studies...).

    Again, I want to be informed /educated about this subject and really appreciate the sharing of information, tools, resources, etc. I will take what I learn and adapt my lifestyle as best suits "me and my" family. I have a family that requires baby steps along the way. (Hard to change what you have been doing for a lifetime.) At least we are moving forward and in the right direction, right? And...No matter where I am in my personal journey, I will not judge others for the decisions they choose to make. I do hope everyone finds their own balance to maintain a good life.

    Please keep the information and discussions coming.

  19. scrapally
    scrapally says…

    Kris, I feel the same way! If it weren't for another SC member, right here on these forums, I would not be clean eating today! I thank akaliz for introducing me to the idea of it. I thank ErinB for answering every question I have about cleaners and beauty products. If it weren't for a place to discuss and learn, I'd still be in the "dark."

    And I don't really care what the studies say or don't say about the "non-dangers" of processed or non-organics. What I can say is that when I bought non-organic apples after eating only organics for 3 months, they not only had lackluster flavors, they made both my daughter and me sick to our stomachs. And if I eat processed food at a restaurant or a pot luck, my body literally reacts the next day in some way - either headache, stomachache, something.

  20. amanda2106
    amanda2106 says…

    I started my clean eating renaissance 3 years ago when my son was diagnosed with severe asthma, ezcema and life threatening allergies. I call it a renaissance because growing up my parens made all our food from scratch and grew 50% of our vegetables. They religiously canned food, made jams, made sauces, froze food the whole nine yards.

    So when I grew up and left home completely rebelled. I ate McDonalds, frozen ready meals, the lot. Gradually I reached a middle ground where I cooked most of the time but processed, quick food was still a big part of my diet. When my son was diagnosed I had to start looking at everything I bought. I was a AMAZED at the ingredients in some food. For example my son is allergic to soy so I started searching for a bread made without soy flour - almost impossible! But what was more shocking to me was the number of ingredients on the list! As I said I had a mother who made bread EVERYDAY she used flour,yeast, oil, salt, sugar and water. FIVE ingredients why then was the ingredient list 15 items long???!!! With things I'd never heard of before. It didn't feel right. I needed to find out more. So i hit the internet, I hit my public library, I spoke to doctors, I spoke to other parents. I found out things that blew my mind! If you want to read two books on the matter check out In Defence of Food by Michael Pollan and The Unhealthy Truth by Robyn O'Brien.

    Now I don't live in the states so I don't know how expensive your food is but it is definitely not cheaper to eat at McDonalds for my family of five. It would cost us at least $30 to feed us all and I can certainly cook A LOT more for that. I think the more you cook for yourself the easier it becomes. I can have a meal on the table within 30 minutes that my kids like and is healthy and nutritious. I still don't bake my own bread, at least not regularly but most of our meals are made from scratch or made by local artisan cooks. I have got a small garden to supplement my families vegetable supply. I don't judge anyone for their choices but I do try to educate people because I think most people don't know enough about these issues. And when I find someone who thinks the same as me I get so excited that I've found a 'friend'!

  21. JenniferT
    JenniferT says…

    Ally... Because I know next to nothing about clean eating can you give me an example of your daily diet? Just curious what a normal days food for you is, thanks :) or anyone else is welcome to chime in!

  22. scrapally
    scrapally says…

    Sure Jennifer! Also, if you join My Fitness Pal which helps me track my daily eating and exercise - as well as nutrient values, I can "friend" you and you can see my full food diary.

    First, I think it's important to understand that I get a weekly Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) bag from a local farmer. I never know what will be in it, but the farmer packs the bags with in season fruits and veggies harvested *that* day :) . I feel VERY lucky to be hooked up with that and it only costs me 10.00/week. So, a lot of my meals are based on what comes in the bag. Because sometimes there is an abundance of something, I try to cook new recipes and figure out ways to use the food. For the last three weeks we had bunches of carrots. I can only eat carrot sticks for so long LOL - so I found this fabulous recipe for Carrot Pancakes and boy are they yummy! Also, because of my desire to lose weight and increase fitness, I eat five meals a day - every 2-3 hours... here is a pretty typical day for me, though it had more fruit than usual. Also, everything marked with an asterisk either came in CSA bag, or I picked up at the local farmer's market. So, you can see that I pretty much plan my meals around what's in season - making the food taste better and fresher: I think you can see it's a pretty "normal" diet. The key differences are that instead of "white flour" I use whole grain, oat flour, and all my nuts are "raw" not roasted.

    This was my actual diary entry from yesterday - also add to this two cups of coffee in the morning - my one vice, to which I add 1 tsp of raw sugar (almost my only added sugar in any food I eat)
    red potato**, onion** and mushroom hash
    1 Egg (I choose cage-free, and look for pasture raised - not for health, but for humane care of the animals)

    1 Grapefruit** - 1/2 Medium
    Raw Almonds 1/8 cup

    Lunch (this is actually my post workout smoothie - I do high intensity interval training so afterward, I follow it with a protein/sugar mix)
    Protein smoothie made with the following ingredients:
    1 clementine orange**
    Blueberries - Frozen, unsweetened, 0.25 cup, unthawed
    Sunflower Seeds, Raw, Hulled, 1 T
    Biochem Sports - 100% Whey Protein Vanilla, 2 scoops

    Dinner (both of these are recipes from a book called Power Foods - I love the simple and easy recipes in it)
    Brown Rice Pasta with Lentils, Spinach** and Leeks**, 1 serving(s)
    Shredded brussels sprouts** and kale** salad, 0.5 serving

    1 Carrot** Pancakes (recipe from - I tweaked and use whole oat flour instead of white, all-purpose - also, I make a whole batch and freeze individual servings in ziploc baggies for quick and easy breakfasts or snacks)
    Dates - Medjool, 2 dates **

  23. scrapally
    scrapally says…

    You can also see that I'm not 100% "whole" as I do eat pasta. Some would say that pasta is a processed food. It is, but for me it's minimally processed and I don't eat pasta made with any "enriched" or white flours. So, again, it's all about choices. Plus I use whey protein. There are some that are considered to be vegan or "whole food" protein powders, however, I don't like the taste... I keep trying to find one I like, but haven't. And my post-workout drink is important to my metabolism, so I use the biochem which uses stevia as a sugar and has very little "sugar" in it. That's my key - looking at the "sugar."

  24. lilkoala3
    lilkoala3 says…

    I grew up dirt poor in a trailer park, and potato chips were the closest thing I got to a vegetable.

    The following article explains (in a funny way!) why that is. I warn you, there are lots of swear words, but I think it's an interesting look at the reasons why poor people spend their money on crap. #1 and #5 are the most relevant on the list.

    If you've ever been broke, you will find this endlessly amusing!

  25. prettygrapes
    prettygrapes says…

    I remember reading something in Health class in high school that the most common vegetable for kids under two in america is CHIPS! As in french fries. That blew my mind! I thought kids under two pretty much ONLY ate fruits and veggies?

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